3/9/10

Mischief

Ch5 v 32-33

Islam is a religion of peace! Peace, Godddammit. They're always harping on that, especially after some moderate leader beheads his wife, and sure as a stiff dick on a teenager they pull out this verse
“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.” (Emuslim.“The Sanctity of Human Life”)
Whoa, what's up? If those little dashes don't make you
 suspicious, you don't know the koran, homes. (See in the sidebar they quote it with the dashes left out altogether? It's what they always do. Quote mining, to da max.) So what's the whole thing?


note: Mo got this
whole thing  from the
Jewish  Talmud. It's
practically a direct quote.

5:32 On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. (yusuf ali)

note: “that account” is the
story of Cain and Abel,
which comes just before.
Only, in the koran version
when Cain has a body that
needs hiding, god sends
somebody who 'solves
problems', but this Mr.
Wolf is a crow! LULZ!
Talking birds again!


It's “for the Children of Israel”, not for muslims. Says jews can't kill. Non-jews? Nada to do with them. Nothing to do with islam. Even if it was, there's a loophole. It doesn't apply if it's for
a) murder, or
b) spreading mischief.
Spreading mischief? WTF. !!?!?!?!
Nothing about muslims, and if Jews “spread mischief”, it's not as if ... anything cuz this whole thing doesn't apply. So wtf is this spreading mischief? The baby does that every day, he just learned to walk.

As-Suddi, one of the most reliable commentators, knows what it means
( ..."Do not make mischief on the earth,''), means, "Do not commit acts of disobedience on the earth. Their mischief is disobeying Allah, because whoever disobeys Allah on the earth, or commands that Allah be disobeyed, he has committed mischief on the earth. Peace on both the earth and in the heavens is ensured (and earned) through obedience (to Allah).'' Ar-Rabi` bin Anas and Qatadah said similarly.”
So 'mischief' = disobeying allah. Who knew? Not Miriam-Webster. But here, if a Jew kills someone for not being a good Muslim [bet that happens a lot] it's not as if he'd killed all the ppl. No shit Sherlock.

That's what it says, but I've never heard anyone interpret it like that. They all insist it applies to muslims, bla bla peace blabbity blab ... why do I get the feeling it's saying “kill non-muslim = no big deal”? Cuz I'm a big fat cynic? Because I've read pretty much the whole damn book that's why.
So, OK, don't obey allah. There, I've committed mischief on the earth (on a chair, actually, but that shouldn't matter should it?) So what's my punishment? The punishment's in the very next line. Well, really it's not, but with scripture you have to read between the lines.

5:33 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land:
There's that “and his messenger” clause in there again, so Mo can stand in for god when the loot is passed out, but this is pretty heavy shit. I'd've thought “wage war” meant something, but but come to find out,
'Wage war' mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways. Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil. (Al Suddi)
The Fuck? You can have your hands and feet cut off for DISBELIEF? Or executed, well yeeeah: not believing Mo is the worst possible crime in the whole wide world, or haven't you been paying attention? But don't believe me, ask the experts. 
 
Daylight Atheism does just that. A guest essay there lays this whole sorry thing out with all its bloody details, and it's even worse than you think. Just look at footnote #2:
[2] The Hanbali jurist Ibn Taymiyya (d. 1328) wrote that captive non-Muslim non-combatants, including women and children, could be executed if they merely engaged in verbal or written opposition to Islam:
"As for those who cannot offer resistance or cannot fight, such as women, children, monks, old people, the blind, handicapped and their likes, they shall not be killed unless they actually fight with words [e.g. by propaganda] and acts [by spying or otherwise assisting in the warfare]. Some jurists are of the opinion that all of them may be killed, on the mere ground that they are unbelievers, but they make an exception for women and children since they constitute property for Muslims."


Religion of peace my ass.

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